Monday 30 August 2010

Netiquette, or 'How not to make threats and aggravate people'

As you can tell, I'm quite new to the blogging thing and the internet. I like the way that you can find out what everyone is thinking and, to me, it's nothing more than the way we used to get together down La Folie after we'd landed our catch and talk over what was happening in the island and give our opinions on different States members and decisions that were made - who was scratching whose back, and so on. But no matter how strong people's opinions were or how much we disagreed, we never fell out over stuff.

Even when we lost our moorings when they built the new marina, I can remember Roy Bullen, who was harbourmaster at the time, having a massive disagreement with Phil Larbalestier that ended with Phil unleashing a barrage of four-letter words towards the corner of the room where nobody was sitting. Of course, Roy took this to be a personal insult towards his good self but we managed to sort the whole problem out with a round of drinks and a shake of hands.

But now you look around at the blogs and because nobody is giving their opinions face to face, they think it is okay to resort to personal insults, sly innuendoes, or downright calumnies. They say stuff that if anyone had said in the back bar of the La Folie they would have been taken outside and flattened and given a dip in the briny for their troubles.

Now I'm not saying that I approve of violence in any form, except maybe when you're landing a six-foot conger that's wriggled off the gaff and has got his teeth in your wellie, but I think that if you're going to discuss politics and politicians, or even the other bloke whose opinion has got your back up, you should keep it polite and stick to the facts.

On other blogs I've seen people referred to as 'nutters', 'spivs', 'criminals', 'dykes', 'a***-lickers', etc, mostly by people who sign themselves as 'Anonymous'. What sort of a way to speak is that? Let me ask you a question: if you worked with someone and they kept referring to other people as 'nutters' or 'spivs', just because they held a different opinion to them, wouldn't you start to think that person themselves had some kind of personal problem, like a chip on their shoulder to do with their own life? I mean, are they so unhappy with their own life that they have to spend their spare time spilling their bile all over the interweb? Happy people just don't go round doing that sort of thing.

My advice is, keep a sunny disposition and look after your friends. The rest of the buggers can take care of themselves.

The only reason I mention this is that recently an acquaintance of mine asked me to look after his blog for a while and approve the comments. I did it for a couple of days but I must say that I was bloody disgusted by the filth that he was receiving. Now it could be that it wasn't real people sending this stuff in - it may have been some kind of spambot offering him Viagra and worse, but I don't understand why someone would send spam saying, 'I hope you die', unless it was from a private funeral agency.

Anyway, I'm just pointing out that you cannot believe everything you read on the internet, and if we had that many anonymous people on this island they'd have to set up a States department for Lost Souls, like in that book by that Russian bloke Googol. So when you read all those comments insulting people, written by people who cannot even spell or punctuate their sentences without using an ellipsis...no names mentioned..., just remember that it's not necessarily a real person who wrote it. It's probably some kind of robot that cannot think for itself but is just programmed to repeat the same things over and over again.

If in doubt, find another blog or forum where people actually respond to each other's ideas and try to reach a conclusion, rather than just running round and round each other shouting insults. When I was a kid, if an adult saw a bunch of kids behaving like that, they would've taken them by the scruff of the neck and separated them, whereas now it's the adults who behave like yobs and use foul language and call it 'political debate'.

Blogs like those are bringing the island into disrepute. I would prefer it if, like ancient Athens, the  island became a centre of democratic reasoning and impassioned debate, with people calmly putting forth the old pro and contra. Remember, those are your brothers and sisters you are talking about: tomorrow we could be fighting together against a common enemy, like Sparta (or, more likely, the EU). So say your piece, speak your brains out, but keep it civil. And next time I see you down the Bagot, I'll buy you a drink and shake your hand.

6 comments:

TonyTheProf said...

I sympathise.

I published a post trying to recommend certain guidelines to good blogging.

http://tonymusings.blogspot.com/2010/07/blogging-etiquette.html

There have been too many insults traded around on all sides of the political divides, and not particularly original ones - politicians have given some choice insults in the past - Disraeli, Lloyd-George, Churchill, etc - but they have been clever and witty, not just name calling.

TonyTheProf said...

Team Voice are getting better though, a lot less of the insults of late.

Dave Sanscerveau said...

Tony, I just read your article and I agree with it all. We all like a bit of a laugh, especially when it is satire, especially when it is against politicians who preen themselves in public and behave dishonestly in private. When they get caught out doing that, well, they're up for a bit of a ribbing in my book.

Not talking about Jersey blogs specifically, but a lot of people on the Internet don't seem to understand that there are a million opinions in the world and you cannot just assert that yours is the correct one.

You shouldn't get angry because someone has the opposite opinion to you on any subject. It is good if you are empassioned about your subject but not to the point of personally abusing your correspondent. It seems to me that when you resort to abuse, it means you have already lost the argument and ceded your reason to invective. I am sure there must be a name for that, when you start abusing a person because you cannot beat them logically.

Dave Sanscerveau said...

Update: someone has just sent me an email and explained to me that it is possible to moderate comments before they are published. I hadn't done this.

I'm convinced that this is the explanation for why the other blogs are full of such bad-tempered, foul-mouthed insults - the blog owners have not turned on comment moderation (I can now explain how to do this, if you need to know).

All you other blog owners out there, I would advise you to read Tony's guidelines and filter out all comments that do not meet basic standards of decency.

Before you post anything, just ask yourself, 'would I like my grandmother to read this?' And if the answer is no, press the Delete button.

What I would like to see is a Jersey citizen media that takes its standards from the JEP but without its slavish pandering to establishment opinion. Let's hear the other side of the story for a change.

TonyTheProf said...

"I am sure there must be a name for that, when you start abusing a person because you cannot beat them logically."

It's called the "ad hominem" fallacy, because you attack the person to discredit what they say, rather than their arguments. CS Lewis called it "bulverism".

Dave Sanscerveau said...

I've never come across that phrase, 'ad hominem' - I'll have to remember it. I left school before I was fifteen I'm afraid and I'm mostly self-taught. I did most of my learning in the merchant navy. In those days they had a good library on board and you could get almost anything. I suppose you could say I had an omnivorous intellect, a bit like HG Wells but without his brains unfortunately.

If I can ever afford to retire, I'm thinking of attending the university of the third age. But I'm learning so much from the Internet these days, my brain feels like it's a steam engine about to explode.

I have to take it easy and have a bit of quiet fishing time every now and again. I always find time to read your blog though: heavy on the facts and light on the gossip, or 'a bit more meat and a bit less pastry', as my dad used to say.